Just grandfather in the new rules as you see fit. If you want to keep the rules more strict, feel free to stick with the old way. You can find the rules right here. What does this patch mean for challenge out there? Take a look! Take a look at the video below. Having been testing and polishing the challenge since the release of the expansion pack, I here by present to you: The Immigrant Challenge. Written in a similar style as the Wonder Child Challenge , this time limited challenge tests you to build up a retail business while operating under loosening restrictions though not as harsh as the Apocalypse Challenge.
You are also free to use a pre-established young adult sim as your immigrant Including a WonderChild if you previously completed that challenge. The Immigrant Challenge. Welcome back portraits. Can she recover? Wait and see! With the Legacy Challenge rules released yesterday, we are already seeing an outpouring of people getting started with their families!
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Game Updates Store Updates. Already a Member? Hi, Logout Tools. ANY Male Female. Nor may ambrosia be used to resurrect ghosts. You may not ressurect dead sims via the Science lab. Sims may not consume life fruit to gain extra days to their lifespan. You may age sims up via the birthday cake only once the game prompts you with a reminder of their impending birthday, not earlier. You do not have to use the birthday cake to age sims up, you can wait for the game to force the age transition if you wish.
Death Flowers may not be kept in inventory. You may gather and sell them, but cannot be used to ward off death. Kleptos, rummagers and theives are now allowed to liquidate their ill gotten goods for cash. All other sims are fair game. If you wish to add members, they must be done in game.
Supernaturals are allowed in the Legacy Challenge, but keep in mind that several of them are quite long lived. If you do not want to deal with having a Sim in your household for several generations then you will want to keep that in mind when you move in a Supernatural.
Generation: Order of birth in relation to the family at large. The challenge ends the moment generation 10 is born. Founder: The sim you create in CAS who starts the family. Spare: A sibling of an heir, who can become an heir should anything happen to the current heir. Spares may be fed to the time stream or kept on the lot if you wish. They are eligible to earn legacy points for the family. Fed to the time stream: Moving a controllable sim out of the legacy house. A sim fed to the time stream no longer can generate legacy points for the family, but still may be interacted with.
Legacy points that have already been earned by this sim still count towards your total, even after you move the sim out. Legacy Points: Your score for the challenge, earned in a variety of ways described below. The goal of the challenge is to get as many legacy points before the 10th generation. Legacy House: The lot initially moved into by your founder. You may not move the family to another lot during the entire challenge.
All heirs must be born in this house or rather, born from sims living at this house, even if they use the hospital to give birth Bloodline: Any sim who can trace his or her family tree directly to the founder.
Sims that are moved in are only considered part of the bloodline when they contribute to the birth of the next generation.
When the next generation is born, the mate becomes part of the family bloodline and eligible to earn points. You earn points for your family in the following ways. Generation: You get 1 legacy point for your founder, and 1 point for every generation born until the 10th.
You earn each point at the birth of the first child in each generation. Further births in that generation do not generate more points. Thus you can only earn a maximum of 10 total Generation points by completing the challenge and birthing the 10th generation. Lifetime wants: You gain 1 point for every unique lifetime want fulfilled by a family member.
The sim in question must be living in the legacy house and be part of the family tree to earn this point. Once a specific liftime wish has been fulfilled by a sim, further sims fulifilling that wish will not earn you a legacy point for doing so. There are 32 unique liftime wishes in the game, meaning you could earn a maximum of 32 points in this category. Portraits: 1 point for creating a portrait of a family member and keeping it on display after their death.
Like above, the sim must be part of the family tree and living in the legacy house to qualify for this point. You earn this point after the portrait is created, you do not have to wait for the sim in the portrait to actually die. Portraits are still worth their points even if the family member pictured is moved out of the house later on. The skill of the artist doing the portrait does not matter, as long as it features the sim in question it counts.
Portraits may be of any size or style. Sims must be of Young Adult or older and living on the Legacy Lot at the time of painting to count for a portrait point. However, only one type portrait, sculpture, or book per Sim please! You may also now use photographs providing the Sims has reached level 4 sepia in the photography skill track.
Thank you RKade for the suggestions! Round up. This category can have a maximum of 20 points earned, meaning a net-worth of 2,, Aspiration Rewards: If a sim is able to earn , points worth of aspiration rewards, they earn your family 1 legacy point. You are free to spend aspiration points as you gain them, it is your lifetime total, not your current total, that matters for this point.
Like the other sim-based points, this may only be earned by family members. You may earn an additional point in this category from a sim if they somehow earn , points in their lifetime. Want to track points? AshleighAnne90 made a point tracker! Whenever a sim is born or ages up, they will often obtain new traits. Sometimes these traits are randomly assigned by the game.
Other times the game lets you pick them. In the Legacy Challenge, all traits are random. If you are given the option to pick traits for any sim, you must hit the random button and accept the trait that is randomly assigned.
If you are, and the family trait is one of the options, you may select that trait rather than hitting the random button. Sims that die on the family lot may be kept around as ghosts, or may be moved to a cemetery. It is up to you. If a sim dies and you forgot to get their portrait, making a portrait of their ghost does not count. If the bloodline is cut short by death, the challenge ends immediately. It is always a good idea to have at least one spare in case the heir perishes.
Even if ghosts become playable, they may not earn any further points for the family. Ghost babies are not considered part of any bloodline. In order to bring in the next generation, a new sim must be born. If the heir is male, you must move their mate into the legacy family house before having a baby. If the heir is female, she may move her mate in, or simply get pregnant while off the lot.
Sims may be born at home or in a hospital, whichever you prefer. This makes it possible for homosexual couples to have a baby without the use of mods. These are optional rules you may play with if you wish. There after, every sim born to the legacy family must possess this trait by the time they reach young adulthood. If they do not inherit it at birth, you must choose that trait the moment you are given the option to.
The remaining traits still must be rolled for. Whatever gender your founder was, this must be the gender of every heir. Meaning if you started with a female founder, only female children may become the heir to bring in the next generation.
Children of the other gender are still counted as part of the family bloodline and may still earn the family points, they simply may not bring in the next generation. A male dominant family is called a Patriarchy, a female dominant family is a Matriarchy.
A popular practice is to write a story for your Legacy family and upload it in chapters. If you feel the creative energy, why not try uploading your own story? There is no in-game bonus for doing this, but the addition to the community is always welcome! Why do I have to buy such a big lot. I barely have money in the beginning? Early poverty is a hallmark of the challenge. A large plot of land not only drains the available cash from your starting funds, it gives you the ability to build some epic sized legacy homes as you play through the generations and get more wealth.
No, as long as they are part of the bloodline and born on the legacy house they are eligible to be an heir, regardless of order of birth. Is it all for fun? Hope that made sense. I posted on the sims 3 forum post, but I figure this would be a good place to ask too. Or gambling at the casino? Cause lotto is in game now and the casino is Store Content. Hmm… good question. Despite bloodline, can household members contribute to total family income? Not for the Sims 3. The way the challenge was originally written it should still be usable in all of the expansion packs.
Pinstar has always felt that he made too many changes to he advanced rules in the Sims 2 and made them too difficult, so he tried to avoid that with the Sims 3.
We plan on being much more active with changes to the Sims 4 Legacy Challenge, though. It will be kind of a middle ground between what he did with the Sims 2 and the Sims 3. How about wedding gifts? Can I sell it and use the money to build better house or something? A little late as in 2 years, however I am responding to a one year old comment!
Whenever I do challenges like this I always follow the basic part if the challenge and then use cheats and miss like crazy, ten just give up!
I have not gotten to more than generations and I have been playing for approximately 3 years! I have a question. I had one of my spares knock up a couple of townies before he moved out. If I move them into the house temporarily to make portraits of them, will those portraits count towards the portrait points? So sorry it took so long to get back to you! I kept forgetting to ask him about this. He confirmed that what I said was correct, they would not count.
I would assume that offspring of any extra families that you add to your legacy town are fair game as mates, just not members of the directly added family.
Is that correct? I was asking because of this part of the rules: All other sims are fair game. As such, they are fair game. Sorry for the confusion! On top of the rules above, I am running my legacy with an additional 6 restrictions. I am having a blast! Thank you both for this well thought out challenge. Are collection items, such as rocks, insects and seeds subject to the black market restriction?
Additionally, if stealing is allowed, then is it okay to steal from an ensorceled sim if you are playing as a Genie? Huh, I never noticed that before. Ok just confirmed this with Pinstar. I was right, he just forgot to take out that bottom part going to go do that right now!
You an sell anything and everything by any means. And oops! I missed the part about the genie earlier. He said yes you can steal from an ensorceled Sim. I shall make them dance and feed me cake. And then give me all their inventory.
I currently have 1 heir, but she has two older brothers. If she dies, can her brothers still get eligible heirs? Or can only the children of the heir be heirs? Of all the foods to like, Peanut butter and Jelly might be the easiest […].
I have another rules question that affects the legacy challenge as well as the SOTM challenge. I fear I know the answer, but…. Of most interest to me at the moment are dragons.
I fear that these might be considered violations of the spirit of the challenge. Each of the four dragons can reset two of your motives, depending on which one you are carrying. The purple dragon is especially efficient at manipulating people.
The black dragon can summon death flowers, but I would assume that just not using that function would suffice, but what about everything else? Ok, he said that the red dragon is ok from the sounds of it, but the others sound pretty over-powered. However, how difficult are dragons to obtain?
You need to be teen or older to use them. As for the 2-item moodlets, they only stay full as long as you are holding your dragon. Soon after you put it down or back in your inventory, then they start to drop again. However, I have not made any exact timing studies on this.
The special abilities of each one vary greatly in power and usefulness depending on what you are trying to accomplish with your character. Evil Sims can get some joy out of the fireball, but I have yet to actually light anyone on fire with it; they get singed at worst… so far. Not only do they instantly fertilize your garden, they case a growth spurt, and they instantly harvest any produce that is ready.
The treasure they summon is usually a random uncut gemstone, but sometimes it is nothing more than a goldfish. With a 1 hour Sim time recharge, this is better than you can do gathering gemstones with the item collection wish. The moodlet boost is useful in social situations, but their real power comes in instantly summoning someone new and making that random person your friend without any social interaction needed.
That is powerful! Again, the usefulness depends on your playing style but I can see it breaking a great many challenges. BLACK: The summoning of the death flower practically at will is great if you are not playing a challenge that requires you not to use them.
I honestly have not played with phantasmal curse enough to know how powerful it is. In my personal playing style, not having to sleep is a major game bonus that one can only come near by paying an alien. With that ability, College suddenly becomes easy as you can have it all; party and study. Dragons require no upkeep. One could have one of each color in their inventory and use them whenever their bonus is wanted and otherwise forget about them.
On caveat to this is that if you left your Sim play with them on its own, it tends to put them down on the ground and walk away, making it a pain to sometimes go and find them, especially if another person in your family picked it up and has it in their inventory.
I hate to be a bother, but there is something else I have been wondering about. I am curious as to why the choosing of traits must be random? And, of course, that leads to the question of the device in University that allows you to alter your traits. I would assume that function of it is not allowed as well? Although, sending your kids to boarding school is allowed, which does allow you some control over their traits, albeit rather in a limited range of traits.
I am not at all complaining. I just have a tendency to over think things; I am, or was rather, a writer. There really is no story behind it that I know of. Back in the Sims 2 Legacy Challenge your lifetime aspiration had to be rolled for to determine whether your Sim would be a popularity, family, knowledge sim etc. In the Sims 3 there is no set aspiration the traits are randomized instead to give you a unique Sim every time.
So going to University in The Sims 3 is completely allowed. You can choose to alter your traits if you wish, though I believe you still need to randomize them for the challenge, it just gives you a chance to get new ones if you wish. We were wondering about your thoughts regarding the second item. We did it because pigeonholing sims into painting seems impractical with so many more skills available. The closest thing we could come up with to balanced was requiring the pictures to be sepia level 4 or above.
I also like your tougher money rule. My family is just starting the 3rd generation and they are rolling in simoleons. Pinstar thinks this is a great idea. This is why we love having community input because neither of us thought to do this. I am going to go ahead and add it to the rules for anyone that wishes to do this. Can we sell the free camera we get? I will ask Pinstar about the camera once he gets home from work. My heirs keep inheriting the old ones and now have a ton of cameras.
No selling them in the first generation. You can place and use them, but no liquidating them as it trivializes the early game. What would be a highest-quality most expensive photograph? She just cancels the interaction after the picture is taken with the camera. The only suggested solution I found so far is starting a new savefile, which of course is not an option at all.
Also, I really like the idea of having a massive portrait gallery in the end. Deleting all the cache files helped. Pinstar said that going with what RKade suggested sepia level level 4 and above would be considered higher quality. It goes along with painting in that a Sim will need a certain level to paint portraits so the same would hold true for photos.
No cheats allowed. You can read more about it here. On this blog I will post updates once something happens to the Highbranch Legacy. Main goal is to […].
Pinstar says that that should be fine. I know the rules state that you cannot have the founder marry another sim that the player has placed into the game, but what if the other sim had just as humble of beginnings? When the new heir comes of age do we have to move them onto a new lot for them to start the next generation or do we have to keep them on the same lot.
Yes, they can get divorced. Just make sure they have a child directly related to the founder first. I am running a sims 3 legacy challenge. I have a sim that was the heirs imaginary friend. I have made the imaginary friend real.
I believe, however, that you could use it as a spouse for one of your Sims. I know of the ones in Sunset Valley and Riverview.
I just want as much knowledge as I can before I get started. Thanks for taking the time to read this and for taking the time to come up with this awesome challenge! The point of points haha is just to ad an additional challenge for you.
Points are completely optional. If you want to use them, then they add some extra challenge for you as you will need to be more strict during the challenge than without. So, with the Supernatural pack installed, does your founder have to be human? If so, is it okay if heirs are half human, half supernatural?
Yes, they should start human as several of the Supernatural Sims start off with benefits that a human Sim would not have. Heirs are allowed to become supernatural or half-supernatural if you marry a Supernatural in. Wish I had known that before as I would have started my legacy in a different town. Ah, doing further research, I found out that the pre-set lots [I think Nightlife gave the ability to place your own lots.
So that answers that, I guess. Mine was cheap-o because I placed it myself. Although I suppose painting a portrait at level 7 would probably look much better than at level 5 anyways. They can paint still lifes at level 5, which can be used as portraits or self portraits. I guess that one should be ok for the challenge, too? On generation 1 when my founder was married, we barely had a house. Haha yeah that happens sometimes! Just had a couple questions to clear up before I start my legacy.
Is allowed to sell the things Kleptomaniacs steal or no? Also, is the Nraas story progression mod allowed? Yes you can sell what Kleptomaniacs steal, the Black Market Restriction has been lifted. The Nraas story progression mod should be fine! Then the heir has a second child with second spouse. Do both children earn points? Does that mean out of the two spouses, only the parent of the next heir is able to earn points?
You can have as many spouses as your want for your heir! I intend to have her have many offspring with various different spouses. So they would still be able to earn points. Thank you very much! My sim is like half werewolf half witch how would there children pop out witch or werewolf? Good question! I have no idea! There is a feature in University Life where you can apply for extra funds every 24 sim hours. Are you allowed have your founder live in Oasis Landing? It is the town the teleporter from Into the Future teleports you to after it shows up on your lawn.
I will need to ask Pinstar when he gets home from work later today. I was curious if question 2 was answered? Also, unrelated to that question, there is a LTR called Midlife Crisis that allows you to change your traits to your choosing — I was wondering if this LTR is allowed if the random traits your heirs or their spouses have are undesired?
Thanks much! I know this is an old comment, but hopefully will help someone else who finds this challenge in , like me.
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